http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/m125-review.html

I agree that a light weight device does not equal a bad device. BUT, the m100's casing (at least with the one I have) just feels cheap to me. It flexs, creaks and cracks when you squeeze it. The m125 feels much better in this regard.

The fact that some consider is cheap looking is one of its major advantages - because ... hey it�s cheap - but thats ok - right now the m100 even makes me tink of going back to a mono device - but thats even another story...

anyhow some things are defenitly wronf with the m125 device:
- consumer will get irritated: hmm it�s an m1xx series device - but I have to use m5xx peripherials, besides the faceplates I can use thosse of an m100/5 but not the stylus this has to be m125 specific. ARGH Palm get it right once and for all - The simplest thing to make universal should be the stylus (it�s really sad having to import a single pentopia stylus to germany for each new Palm I get)

- the price is to high: concerning palm�s recent m500 price changes (unless they plan to discontinue the m500 which is my guess - another story)

Anyone comlpaiing about the m1xx look and feel should just go out and use it for a week (try the m100 - it get�s your priorities back straight with not enough room for al the stuff that fills up my other palm I realized that 90% of the day I spent using only 2-3 different Apps) hmm I guess I�m taling to much - anyway time to go to bed now

bye

Nuksta

How did you scoop everyone on this? I didn't know the m125's were even out! Nice job and a good review.

They've been in some stores since early this week.

I think that the m1xx series of Palms can be considered the "blue-collar" palm. The price is right for the m100 and m105, but the m125 is a bit too high for many of us.

Being an owner of a m105, I'm a little dissapointed that Palm decided to start using a "universal" connection. Unless there is some sort of adapter out there that lets you hook up universal style periferals to the m100/m105, I would have to purchase a new keyboard...

Like our friend from germany also mentioned, another pentopia stylus would have to be ordered. I'm curious as to how well this new m125 fits in the m1xx series PalmGlove?

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Originally posted by Dan Bruner:

Like our friend from germany also mentioned, another pentopia stylus would have to be ordered. I'm curious as to how well this new m125 fits in the m1xx series PalmGlove?

it would have to be redesigned to allow the use of teh SD card. unless you are the type that would cut a hold there yourself. and as for the stylus. there shouldnt be a need to get a new stylus since the slot is teh same as the previous m10x models. it is only the connector that is different.

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I happily read your review about the new m125 which is soon to come out here in Germany.
On one picture I saw that the flip-cover seems to be slightly curved - is that true? For me one of the advantages of the m10x-devices was that the cover flipped back completely and the device could lay flat on a table.
Is this still so with the m125 or do I have instead the cover "on top" of the m125 while lying on a table?

The flip cover does have a slight curve to the bottom edge (where the buttons are). But it can still flip back around the PDA and lay flat on a table. The cover is made of rubber.

Palm doesn't do major OS updates that often so I don't think you'd be at a major disadvantage. And so far, the updates haven't been revolutionary as far as changes.

I think you may have been looking at the m105 instead of the m125.

m125 - $249
m105 - $149
320 Clie - $169

Between the m105 and Clie, I would go with the Clie for the following reasons:

1. The clie has a rechargable battery
2. The screen is larger than the m105
3. OS v4.0
4. Jogdial
5. Memory stick expansion

Does it come with a serial port connector or a USB connector ?

The m125 comes with a USB hotsync cradle. The serial cradle is sold separately.

Regarding your question as to whether to buy the m125 or the Clie 320, I'll have to first tell you that I've never seen or played with the 320. But, that said, I would probably pick the 320 because it is $169 while the m125 is $249. Both units have 8mb of RAM, Palm OS 4.0, and a 160 x 160 mono screen. The only real difference is that the Sony uses memory sticks for expansion while the Palm uses SD cards. The only other point to consider is that the m125 will probably have more accessories (cases, styli, etc) for it due to the m100 series popularity.

With a bigger screen it seems it bit more preferable and cheaper price

but I have to buy an adapter for the Visor before I can use a memory card, so I'd lose some of the savings there?...

Any comments on this please?

I like the Handspring Visor over the m125 for several reasons.

1. The screen is larger and easier to read.
2. The Springboard slot for memory or other interesting add-ons.
3. Feels better in my hand.
4. Tends to be less expensive.

Your questions / comments regarding the OS version and memory expansion are valid. But, I can't recall (correct me if I'm wrong folks) any OS 4 specific apps lately... I don't think you have much to worry about in that dept. for awhile.

As for memory, CF, SmartMedia and soon Memorystick adapers will be available. Yes, you have to buy them, but at least you have that option. I'd get your PDA first, load it up with programs and see if you even need extra memory before worrying about this issue.

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Some say that the m125 may be better 'cos of the OS 4, and that there will be applications only for the OS 4 (& OS 5, they say may out soon), so using a Visor I'd miss out.

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I agree with Julie--there shouldn't be any issue with apps written only for OS 4; there aren't likely to be many if any such apps. OS 5 is a much bigger leap than anything we've seen before, though.

So, 1) you wouldn't be able to upgrade the OS because neither the Visor line nor the m125 has the OS in flash memory. And 2) more importantly, even the devices with flash memory (such as the m500 or m505) may not be able to run OS 5. If there is something released, it'll definitely be a scaled-down version.

So, with either a Visor or an m125, you'd have to replace the device to use OS 5.

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OUR FRIENDS AT PALM OBVIOUSLY DO NOT READ ALL OF THE FORUMS LINKED TO THEIR SITE, THEY ALL ACT AS IF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE HEARD OF THIS. OBVIOUSLY MY EXPERIENCE IS NOT UNIQUE!!!!!!!!!

I HAVE SPENT WAY WAY WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON THE PHONE TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS. m125 #1 BOUGHT FROM BEST BUY, #2 EXCHANGED AT BEST BUY (HAD TROUBLE GETTING ONE IN STOCK), #3 SCHEDULED BY PALM CUSTOMER SERVICE BUT NEVER CAME!!! AFTER A WEEK & 3-4 CALLS SOMEONE THERE DECITED THEY LOST THE REPLACEMENT REQUEST AND SCHEDULED AN ADVANCE RETURN. >>>CAUTION<<< I WAS ASSURED IT WOULD BE A NEW UNIT. GUESS WHAT-THEY SENT A REFERB WITH THE SAME PROBLEM!!!!!!~!

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THERE IS NO EXCAUSE FOR THIS! I FEEL FOR ANYBODY WHO BUYS THIS AS THERE FIRST PALM (WHO THEY HAVE CLEARLY TARGETED) AND HAS THIS PROBLEM AND THINKS MAYBE THIS IS THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE! OR MAYBE IT IS SOMETHING THEY ARE DOING OR SOMETHING THEY INSTALLED. AND THE OH SO HELPFUL TIPS LIKE USING A POINTER STYLUS AND "TRY RECALIBRATING THE DIGITIZER", PLEASE, THIS IS NOT HOW THIS PRODUCT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. I HAVE ONLY SEEN THIS BEHAVIOR IN THE m125. 3 OF THEM.

So I've been looking - here in the UK prices are not as competitive - I decided the m125 was probably me best bet as I didn't want PocketPC bloatware and colour battery times don't seem to be very long.

I am attracted to the m125 because;
- expandability (there is some choice- xtra memory etc...)
- compact
- Palm OS - lots of software

I am not sure about
- smaller screen size than other PDA's
- 4-shade greyscale not 16 (I note that this review quoted the spec as 16-shade greyscale - can anyone confirm this as all UK reviews seem to indicate m125 is 4-shade grayscale)

In the UK the cheapest prices generally are
- m105 is about �100
- m125 is about �180 (I've seen it for �158)
- m500 is about �240
- m505 is about �290

I don't want Sony due to memory stick & not being able to run apps from the stick!

Reviews tend to indicate Handspring is not quite as polished.

I have found Handspring Visor Deluxe for �94 (+ �28 for cradle, �28 for memory jacket)

Any response - what is the best PDA - given I don't want to spend too much more than �150?

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Post your comments here on the Palm m125 Review.

http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/m125-review.html

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Originally posted by sdsaaaaae:
I know it is nearly a year and a half after the M125 was released, but I was hoping someone could answer my question. I live in Australia, and handhelds are NOT cheap here. Anyway, i want to get my first PDA, and my only two options currently seem to be a Handspring Visor Edge at $400 (Australian dollars) or a Palm M125 at prices ranging from $350-$489 (Australian Dollars). I am currently thinking more of a M125 rather than the Edge, but I am really stuck for which one to choose. Also, rechargeable batteries aren't a must. If anyone could give me some advice, it would be greatly appreciated. Oh, and if you are wondering, I am computer and Palm OS literate, so I don't want a M105 or something basic that has no memory expansion.

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Expansion, IMO, is a tradeoff. The Springboard slot offers more overall flexibility, but has been discontinued. So modules may be available at better prices than before, but availability and support are much less certain.

Also, I don't know if the MemPlug or other adaptors support SDIO cards--definitely something worth checking. I can't think of any that definitely do, but don't want to say that none of them do. I don't know if you have any interest in using any SDIO card devices (i.e. Bluetooth card, Presenter-to-Go, cameras and possibly GPS in the works). Even if there isn't something you want to get right now, I'd say it's better to have the option.

Also, I'd compare the screens closely. My preference there would definitely be the Edge (screen size and how it looks), but it's your call that counts here.